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Common Good
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That the overall Tax Take is well spent for the brnifit of socity
In terms of green economy benefit common good over private or corporate profit e.g. no false solutions like carbon trading
reform co-operative law and increase profit sharing, extended to the community
Education
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education system to underpin achieing income equality
Increase investment in education particularly in early preschool education
needs to be greater fit between education and world of work
Growth Alternative
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Consider alternatives to growth and the shareholder system, e.g. sustainable food, energy, transport and alternative business models such as cooperatives
Income Equality
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Tie the egalitarian idea to the policy change - equality needs to be on thsi list or we will maintain class based inequalities. Economic equality - equality in work and learning & income
Not enought to look for a job strategy - need an equality based strategy that includes gender and class
education system to underpin achieing income equality
income adequacy to be prioritised/ optimum standards of living and not the minimum standards of living
Examine the remuneration of those providing essential services to the state and community for example doctors and barristers
Guaranteed minumum income-not just wage
Introduce the concept of the living wage.
Explore basic income system
Introduce the concept of the living wage.
Guaranteed minumum income-not just wage
address the poverty trap to incentivise people to work
Maximum wage was seen to be a disincentive by some - though some agreed with it. The tax system was suggested as an alternative way of imposing taxation on very high earners.
Prioritise decent meaningful employment for both Irish and international people, as in employees in other countries producing goods need to be treated fairly e.g. wages, justice. Fair employment globally
Human Rights Apprach suggested to b used as apprach to income, wealth and work
Meaningful Employment
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address the poverty trap to incentivise people to work
Stop wastage and taxing higher. Introduce wealth tax. Broaden definition fo work - recogize contribution for society to enhance self esteam. Everyone encourraged to work. Everyone should pay tax and see where it goes. Stop double dipping - doal and workin
remove meaningfull to become all work number 4
Point 4 should also include works -value all meaningfull work to include work in the home child care and elderly care
needs to be greater fit between education and world of work
Prioritise decent meaningful employment for both Irish and international people, as in employees in other countries producing goods need to be treated fairly e.g. wages, justice. Fair employment globally
Human Rights Apprach suggested to b used as apprach to income, wealth and work
e wary of full employment as we now have situation where it requires two adults working full time to support a family and run a household. What dies this say of the kind of society we can have: slave labuor, no choice
New Development Model
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The focus for movement should be on changing the fundamental model rather than getting too specific at this stage. There's not enough detail re the choices i.e. how will increased tax be spent,
Put the word including before green/social economy
New Economic Model
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The focus for movement should be on changing the fundamental model rather than getting too specific at this stage. There's not enough detail re the choices i.e. how will increased tax be spent,
Other
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Its a pity they wernt put into themes rather than specific proposals
Belief in a meritocracy is flawed - need a radical restructuring
Unions to negotiate on behalf of everyone - Need democratic structures in work place - Maximum wage to include all benefits, shares and expenses - Minimum standard of living for all - Policy choice with regard to tax take needs to go further - Communities
Change 'EU average' to 'Nordic average' in bullet point 3
Thirty five hour week as standard without loss of pay
there should be clear link between taxation and services
Reject the cutbacks
An increqase in the overall tax take to the Eu average and broadening of the tax base should only happen if there is a dramatic and significant change in the Social Welfare, Education and Health System.
we want to say that 2 and 3 need to be hand in hand in practice.
There was a lot of debate about setting 1st and 2nd priorities - in the end a majority of 5/3 chose our first priority
Not all members of the table wanted to vote as they believed that the options were insipid and weak and none had the ability to transform society.
change electoral voting system
need to ensure policies do not negatively impact on other economies in developing world in particular should support these economies
transform unemployment benefit into social employment payment
Focus on community based economies
Leadership needs to show what needs to be done e.g trade unions
no consensus
improve collective bargining rights for working people.
prioritise jobs not just in the green/social economy
Consensus on numbers 3 and 4 was quite difficult as it was felt the statement on increasing overall tax take need further clarity and definition.
reform co-operative law and increase profit sharing, extended to the community
Stop wastage and taxing higher. Introduce wealth tax. Broaden definition fo work - recogize contribution for society to enhance self esteam. Everyone encourraged to work. Everyone should pay tax and see where it goes. Stop double dipping - doal and workin
Stae expenditure needs to be considered as part of this
We do not like the wording of Prioritise high levesl of decent employment and think that the words decent and green/socila economy should be deleted. We also would like to end the recognise and reward statement to delet from care work to shared more equal
Kennedy: we must never fear to negotiate but we must never negotiate though fear.
remove meaningfull to become all work number 4
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself
Meritocracy based approach has to shift
one view expressed a table was that these five points are very aspirational but lacking practical effectiveness
Re increasing the overall tax take -dont use the term tax base but use instead tax range. There is an absence in this list of the value of self actualisation and creativity.
Add QUOTE industrial democracy and corproate governance policies ENDNDQUOTE to QUOTE wage tax and income policies ENDQUOTE ALSO referenece to care work is just tagged on and needs more teeth ALSO all five points need analysis and explanation to open the p
referenece to care work is just tagged on and needs more teeth
all five points need analysis and explanation to open them up and make them understood
Pension Fund
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Disagree with dipping into pension fund
Pension reserve should not be an option for expenditure
MINORITY POSITION IS NOT TO USE THE PENSION RESERVE FUND
we also said that we dont want the pension reserves used by the current government set up (ie either ff or fg led government) because we dont trust them with this precious reserve as governemnet is currently set up in ireland
Utilise 'reserve pension fund' only as a last resort and under a transparent framework
Political Reform
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Poverty
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We need to attend to the rising level of poverty. There is a new poor economic insecuity has broadened and is affecting ever broader sectors of the population
More transparency in the accumulation and documentation of wealth and assests, to be used in the context of comparing with poverty indicators
Remuneration Levels
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Thirty five hour week as standard without loss of pay
Examine the remuneration of those providing essential services to the state and community for example doctors and barristers
Politicians should be well paid!
Guaranteed minumum income-not just wage
Politicians should be well paid!
Introduce the concept of the living wage.
Stimulus Package
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broader stimulus package required (not limited to social/green economy)
Sustainable Development
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In terms of green economy benefit common good over private or corporate profit e.g. no false solutions like carbon trading
broader stimulus package required (not limited to social/green economy)
Consider alternatives to growth and the shareholder system, e.g. sustainable food, energy, transport and alternative business models such as cooperatives
Taxes
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That the overall Tax Take is well spent for the brnifit of socity
Broaden Tax base upwards to pay for services but also to take account of outgoings to prevent people falling into the poverty trap
Reword C to increase the overall tax base by creation of a fair equitable tax system based on the ability to pay
introduction of an effectibve wealth tax
All citizens should pay tax and loophles should be closed
`broadening tax base should be upwards
there should be clear link between taxation and services
Chase tax exiles
An increqase in the overall tax take to the Eu average and broadening of the tax base should only happen if there is a dramatic and significant change in the Social Welfare, Education and Health System.
Close tax loopholes, tax reliefs Right to work
Broaden tax base, abolish individual tax breaks
flexibility not to be used against employees; broadening tax base not to be used to tax low paid
reduce vat on food / reduce regressive taxation / review all tax exemptions / review social housing policies / minimum BER rating for rented accommodation / review the status of tax exiles amd wealthy irish people
Rise corporation tax with tax breaks for job creation
Close all tax loopholes and make equalty a priority in taxation to achieve a fairer tax system
Increase corporation tax, introduce progressive property tax and abolition of tax breaks
in point 3 the phrase broaden the tax base is widely understood to mean taxing the less well off. We do not support this interpretation
increase tax on oil, reform FAS, reintroduce tax bands, respect other country tax systems.
Stop wastage and taxing higher. Introduce wealth tax. Broaden definition fo work - recogize contribution for society to enhance self esteam. Everyone encourraged to work. Everyone should pay tax and see where it goes. Stop double dipping - doal and workin
Overhaul of tax system rather than just stating that tax take needs to be increased
tobin tax 0.5 on all financial transactions
Tax as contributions rather than burden. Taxing to support a recovery fund.
at number 4 include incresed corporation tax and taxes on all international financial transactions through iFSC for example
Maximum wage was seen to be a disincentive by some - though some agreed with it. The tax system was suggested as an alternative way of imposing taxation on very high earners.
refund all taxes for bank bailouts increased when recovery accurs
on number 4. extend to include a tax on all international financail transactions and an increase in corporation tax
Inheritance tax has to potential to shift wealth
Re increasing the overall tax take -dont use the term tax base but use instead tax range. There is an absence in this list of the value of self actualisation and creativity.
Tax increases should be progressive & tax those with wealth first, before targetting the lower paid, broaden up before you broaden down, without being punitive in taxation rates
Broadening the tax base should not involve bringing low income people in, point 5 doesnt mention taxing the rich
Equality
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Tie the egalitarian idea to the policy change - equality needs to be on thsi list or we will maintain class based inequalities. Economic equality - equality in work and learning & income
Not enought to look for a job strategy - need an equality based strategy that includes gender and class
Reword C to increase the overall tax base by creation of a fair equitable tax system based on the ability to pay
We need to attend to the rising level of poverty. There is a new poor economic insecuity has broadened and is affecting ever broader sectors of the population
Close all tax loopholes and make equalty a priority in taxation to achieve a fairer tax system
Tax increases should be progressive & tax those with wealth first, before targetting the lower paid, broaden up before you broaden down, without being punitive in taxation rates
Finance/Bank
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let Anglo Irish Bank collapse
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